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-(19:07:15) The topic for #LOGIN is: Linux Owners Group in Newcastle (LOGIN) Australia, ​http://www.newcastlelug.org (Linux Users Group) ​ blogs http://planet.newcastlelug.org/ ​|| Next Meeting: IRC Tonight 6:30pm EST  || +[[http://pretendcow.org/login/irc_20080731.log|irc_20080731.log]]
-(19:07:34) kymoie: evening serialmonkey +
-(19:07:46) Nuggy: Evening all +
-(19:07:53) theothersteve:​ hi all, apologies for being late +
-(19:07:59) serialmonkey:​ How about thisAt this time, we say we are doing our normal LOGIN meeting, same place, same time as always. We can invite people last minute if Pia ends up coming. BUT, if we hear back from her within 4-5 days we meet next week on IRC again to reorganise. +
-(19:08:04) serialmonkey:​ Hi Steve !! +
-(19:08:07) kymoie: Gabz^laptop:​ lol true, but there is spam from students, and having an email from say Regina +
-(19:08:28) Nuggy: serialmonkey,​ I agree +
-(19:08:48) serialmonkey:​ Steve: In Summary, Pia hasn't gotten back to us so we aren't 100% she is coming. So, what I just said above :-) +
-(19:09:13) Bruce_Thompson:​ we need to start promo as soon as we know Pia's schedule +
-(19:09:16) theothersteve:​ Sounds good to me. No good promoting something if we're uncertain +
-(19:09:29) kymoie: or we figure out what we would do if/when she comes to newcastle but don't actually book/set stuff in concrete yet +
-(19:09:48) serialmonkey:​ Excellent. In the mean time, I'll ask around at Uni to see if any of the female lecturesr are keen to get involved - thinking that if Pia can't make this meeting then perhaps she will make another this year +
-(19:10:00) serialmonkey:​ I'll ask the Uni regarding their ties to high-schools as well +
-(19:10:07) kymoie: yeah +
-(19:10:25) Nuggy: And I'll ask SPCC would they be at all interested +
-(19:10:40) serialmonkey:​ Excellent +
-(19:10:42) kymoie: oh I still have the head of junor robocup'​s number, maybe he could get the word out also.. +
-(19:11:22) Bruce_Thompson:​ My ideas on Pia are on the last post at http://​groups.google.com/​group/​westlakes-linux-learners/​browse_thread/​thread/​d1c9967f85d6e54 +
-(19:12:13) kymoie: oh how did you stuff go today Bruce_Thompson?​ +
-(19:12:50) Bruce_Thompson:​ Its's Aug 31 +
-(19:12:59) serialmonkey:​ Bruce: That reads REALLY well. We can use that in a rush if we have to advertise. +
-(19:13:13) Bruce_Thompson:​ see the first post on that link on Aug 31 +
-(19:13:36) kymoie: opps, sorry wrong month... +
-(19:14:01) kymoie: I was trying to figure out how you were organising it so quickly... +
-(19:14:39) serialmonkey:​ So, onto SFD ? +
-(19:14:55) kymoie: yep +
-(19:15:00) theothersteve:​ I'm happy to help out that day (Aug 31) Bruce if you need it. Will just need to confirm how much time I'll have. +
-(19:15:13) theothersteve:​ yep SFD +
-(19:15:26) Bruce_Thompson:​ thanks steve would appreciate Ubuntu expertise +
-(19:15:37) kymoie: its a sunday, I should be able to come help out too +
-(19:15:55) Gabz^laptop:​ its a month away i won't give you false hope.... +
-(19:16:02) Bruce_Thompson:​ great, could I get some talks too +
-(19:16:16) kymoie: practise talks hey :P +
-(19:16:54) Bruce_Thompson:​ The topics are on the post, other fav software talks are welcome - aimed at the gen public +
-(19:17:12) serialmonkey:​ I can probably make it as well. Sounds like a plan. +
-(19:17:19) serialmonkey:​ Steve: SFD - all yours :-D +
-(19:17:34) Nuggy: Me too - hope to make it +
-(19:17:58) Bruce_Thompson:​ Great guys +
-(19:18:02) theothersteve:​ OK, just digging up the email I sent last week...... +
-(19:18:11) vibratednewt:​ Bruce_Thompson:​ you should probably put the Aug 31 on the WLL calendar .. +
-(19:18:27) Bruce_Thompson:​ WLL?? +
-(19:18:47) vibratednewt:​ westlakes lin... +
-(19:18:57) Gabz^laptop:​ ok i go to head i'll read the updated wiki pages later :D ? +
-(19:19:19) Nuggy: lol +
-(19:19:48) Bruce_Thompson:​ lol, don't even know my own group +
-(19:20:06) theothersteve:​ - confirm details of what stuff we get from SFD org. In particular,​ +
-(19:20:06) theothersteve:​ how many cd's     (SteveL) +
-(19:20:25) theothersteve:​ I haven'​t done this yet. Will do before next irc meeting. +
-(19:20:39) theothersteve:​ -  venue chase up +
-(19:20:46) serialmonkey:​ re: CD's I read an interesting post on the LCA mailing list today +
-(19:21:09) theothersteve:​ go on serialmonkey +
-(19:21:12) serialmonkey:​ Basically people'​s opinions were that "there are other countries that need the CD's more than us - surely in Australia we can all just donate a few gold coins and burn our own" +
-(19:21:15) Bruce_Thompson:​ serialmonkey can you summarise +
-(19:21:39) vibratednewt:​ gold coins? +
-(19:21:44) Bruce_Thompson:​ I think we should burn our own anyway +
-(19:22:02) serialmonkey:​ vibratednewt:​ i.e. pass the hat around login, buy some blanks and burn our own +
-(19:22:27) serialmonkey:​ I agree - I think we need todo what we did last time, work out what we want, find a sponsors to buy the blanks and split them up between us with burners +
-(19:22:28) vibratednewt:​ serialmonkey:​ my point was more that a cd is, what? 50c or less retail. +
-(19:23:03) serialmonkey:​ vibratednewt:​ well, a hundred or so CD's anyway :-D +
-(19:23:05) vibratednewt:​ does anyone have access to a cd duplicator?​ +
-(19:23:16) kymoie: Nuggy: ? +
-(19:23:23) theothersteve:​ How about if we all undertake to burn 20 cd +
-(19:23:34) Nuggy: I can ask if we can use one? +
-(19:23:43) Nuggy: Cannot garuntee it all.. +
-(19:23:48) serialmonkey:​ That sounds like an action item :-D +
-(19:23:48) Bruce_Thompson:​ CDs with an insert in the sleeve of upcoming SFD events is the best advert we have. Give them out before the day +
-(19:23:55) kymoie: I can do the printing again +
-(19:24:00) serialmonkey:​ Excellent +
-(19:24:06) serialmonkey:​ Burning labels is hard +
-(19:24:29) kymoie: its not that hard +
-(19:24:30) theothersteve:​ action: nuggy to check cd duplicator +
-(19:24:39) Nuggy: Once the WIKI is up I will update it if I fine out if I can borrow it... +
-(19:25:01) Bruce_Thompson:​ Don't burn labels - make a sleeve insert - easier and all of us can do it. +
-(19:25:46) kymoie: yeah fair enough +
-(19:26:34) vibratednewt:​ so how many cd'​s?​ +
-(19:26:40) serialmonkey:​ OK, if Nuggy'​s duplicator doesn'​t come off we can break the burning up between us +
-(19:26:48) kymoie: how many did we have last year? +
-(19:26:50) theothersteve:​ Agreed +
-(19:26:57) serialmonkey:​ Whatever we had worked well I thought. +
-(19:27:08) serialmonkey:​ The old wiki is lost, right ? +
-(19:27:20) Nuggy: Sounds good - even without the duplicator I can do heaps here +
-(19:27:33) theothersteve:​ I can't remember how many we had. 100? +
-(19:27:50) Bruce_Thompson:​ But we only had 2 events - I'll burn a heap for Aug 31 and giving away +
-(19:27:58) serialmonkey:​ I think we had 50 official CD's, then another 50 ubuntu and another 50 of something else .... +
-(19:28:06) theothersteve:​ how many are you planning Bruce? +
-(19:28:13) Bruce_Thompson:​ 50 Vectors +
-(19:28:44) vibratednewt:​ serialmonkey:​ what was the old wiki address? +
-(19:29:08) kymoie: Gabz^laptop:​ wasn't SFD on the new wiki address? +
-(19:29:13) ***vibratednewt just counted I can rotate cd's through 10 or 11 machines if necessary +
-(19:29:20) serialmonkey:​ I can't remember. +
-(19:29:22) Bruce_Thompson:​ frankly I'm emphasising OpenDisk and Open Education disc and I reckon I could easily give 100 away +
-(19:30:14) Gabz^laptop:​ kymoie, http://​wiki.newcastlelug.org/​doku.php/​software_freedom_day +
-(19:31:21) serialmonkey:​ So, assuming multiple events and lots of pre-SFD giveaways, how about 100 OpenCD, 100 OpenEdu and 200 Ubuntu +
-(19:31:29) Gabz^laptop:​ serialmonkey, ​ jon coombs should have a copy of the old wiki somewhere +
-(19:31:52) ***vibratednewt can't find it in the Wayback Machine +
-(19:32:04) theothersteve:​ serialmonkey:​ sounds good.  +
-(19:32:39) vibratednewt:​ serialmonkey:​ do we want 200 x86 or a mix of x64 and x86? +
-(19:33:13) kymoie: 175 x86, 25 x64? +
-(19:33:22) Gabz^laptop:​ 64 bit has too many downfalls for newbies +
-(19:33:25) serialmonkey:​ All x86 I think. The x86 version will work on both to give people an initial taste. They can download the x64 version if they want +
-(19:33:28) vibratednewt:​ noting the flash / java plugin problems maybe x86 would be best for the time being. +
-(19:33:59) kymoie: any chance of some kubuntu ones? +
-(19:34:02) theothersteve:​ yeah just x86 I reckon +
-(19:34:49) serialmonkey:​ I think it's best we just push one distro - otherwise we are just going to confuse people. +
-(19:35:24) Bruce_Thompson:​ Aah but which distro? +
-(19:35:32) ***vibratednewt agrees. We an have an ISO on the day if someone specifically asks bu +
-(19:35:41) kymoie: Ubuntu +
-(19:36:04) serialmonkey:​ Gentoo +
-(19:36:06) serialmonkey:​ :-) +
-(19:36:10) serialmonkey:​ No, seriously, Ubuntu +
-(19:36:10) vibratednewt:​ LFS +
-(19:36:14) theothersteve:​ Ubuntu definitely +
-(19:36:15) kymoie: lol +
-(19:36:17) Gabz^laptop:​ solaris :P +
-(19:36:25) serialmonkey:​ Those be fighting words Gab +
-(19:36:29) LeftWing__ [n=leftwing@aux.jmctech.com.auentered the room. +
-(19:36:37) serialmonkey:​ lol, you woke him up !!! +
-(19:36:41) Bruce_Thompson:​ the flames begin and Berlin burns +
-(19:36:53) Bruce_Thompson:​ Seriously Ubuntu +
-(19:36:56) LeftWing left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection). +
-(19:37:01) serialmonkey:​ So, whats next Steve ? +
-(19:37:09) theothersteve:​ Venue. +
-(19:37:17) Gabz^laptop:​ lol +
-(19:37:27) theothersteve:​ I've not got anywhere with venue and we're running out of time. +
-(19:38:18) serialmonkey:​ I can ask Wallsend library tomorrow if we like +
-(19:38:36) serialmonkey:​ They have a fairly large room from memory +
-(19:38:46) vibratednewt:​ I can ask Charlestown library tomorrow also if we like +
-(19:39:00) kymoie: oh wallsend have a fete thingy coming up soon, did we want to try to get a stall at taht? +
-(19:39:06) vibratednewt:​ I believe the Wallsend one is bigger. +
-(19:39:06) theothersteve:​ serialmonkey:​ if you have time that would be great, otherwise I'll do some chasing up on the weekend (too busy during week at the moment) +
-(19:39:25) serialmonkey:​ OK, so thats 2 libraries covered. Any word back on the markets ? +
-(19:39:42) serialmonkey:​ kym: the winter fair ? +
-(19:39:52) theothersteve:​ $100 for two tables at computer market in september +
-(19:39:58) kymoie: yeah, winter carnavle +
-(19:40:08) lawrance left the room (quit: "​Leaving"​). +
-(19:41:27) vibratednewt:​ I haven'​t been to a computer fair in a long time. How big is a table? +
-(19:41:45) LeftWing__ is now known as LeftWing +
-(19:41:47) theothersteve:​ we had two last time, big enough I reckon +
-(19:41:47) serialmonkey:​ about as long as the tables we sit at at Login +
-(19:41:49) kymoie: those plastic tables... +
-(19:42:04) kymoie: yeah 2 was good +
-(19:42:18) serialmonkey:​ I think we should go ahead and find someone to sponsor the table, and book it +
-(19:42:34) vibratednewt:​ 2 sponsors or 1? +
-(19:42:41) serialmonkey:​ Book that market, and chase down the two libraries. +
-(19:43:01) theothersteve:​ action: steve to book market +
-(19:43:03) serialmonkey:​ At the end of this talk we can list all the money-related things and email them to the list. Sponsors can just put their hand up +
-(19:43:13) Bruce_Thompson:​ There are markets Aug 31, Sept 7 , 21 at various venues +
-(19:43:46) serialmonkey:​ Are they all the same price ? +
-(19:43:48) Nuggy: Apologies all, I need to go - When the wiki is up, I'll check it out +
-(19:43:52) Nuggy left the room (quit: "​Leaving"​). +
-(19:44:19) theothersteve:​ I'll check the price, I believe I asked about the early september one. will confirm and get back to list/wiki +
-(19:44:47) vibratednewt:​ ok whats next? +
-(19:45:20) Bruce_Thompson:​ just emailed John b about a room at Glendale TAFE +
-(19:45:38) theothersteve:​ are we finished discussing venue and markets for now? +
-(19:45:45) Bruce_Thompson:​ Around Sep 20 for the room? +
-(19:46:22) theothersteve:​ sfd weekend is 20/21st sept +
-(19:46:34) Bruce_Thompson:​ Good +
-(19:47:03) theothersteve:​ ok, next agenda item.... +
-(19:47:18) theothersteve:​ website tidy up +
-(19:47:58) theothersteve:​ anyone have time/talent to do a fresh front page for the website. would be nice to do before SFD +
-(19:48:32) ***vibratednewt looks at front page +
-(19:49:24) kymoie: you putting your hand up for that theothersteve?​ +
-(19:49:41) kymoie: Gab's at hockey at the moment, hence why he's set to away +
-(19:50:01) vibratednewt:​ can we lose the front page and just use the wiki. Farm the existing wiki main page to '​Meetings'​. +
-(19:50:04) lawrance [n=sam@pdpc/​supporter/​professional/​lawranceentered the room. +
-(19:50:07) theothersteve:​ I can but it'll have to wait until end of this month before I can look at it +
-(19:50:33) lawrance left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection). +
-(19:50:35) theothersteve:​ (work is mental until end of august, after that I'll start to have some free time) +
-(19:50:59) kymoie: Gabz^laptop can probably do something with it +
-(19:51:10) kymoie: I'll put his hand up for him :P +
-(19:51:15) theothersteve:​ :) +
-(19:51:43) theothersteve:​ ok, next item weekly.... irc meeting. are we happy with this time each week? +
-(19:51:56) serialmonkey:​ Re: the website. Sarah is keen to give a hand with the design. +
-(19:52:03) kymoie: you can move it back to mondays +
-(19:52:04) serialmonkey:​ (sorry for the lag, got stuck on a work phone call) +
-(19:52:20) kymoie: ohh sarah would be good, doesn'​t she do some website design for a job? +
-(19:52:27) serialmonkey:​ and I'm keen to make the whole site just one large Wiki. +
-(19:52:29) serialmonkey:​ kym: yep +
-(19:52:33) kymoie: :) +
-(19:52:41) theothersteve:​ action: sarah to fix up website :) +
-(19:52:58) serialmonkey:​ We were brain-storming over dinner about our own Tux holding the Pasha Bulker in it's hand :-D +
-(19:53:06) kymoie: they only reason why I wanted to make the IRC meeting THursday instead of Monday this week is because I had an Engineers Without Borders dinner on monday night +
-(19:53:21) serialmonkey:​ Monday nights sound good to me +
-(19:53:22) theothersteve:​ ok, everyone cool with monday? +
-(19:53:26) vibratednewt:​ yep +
-(19:53:28) theothersteve:​ monday good for me +
-(19:53:42) kymoie: monday is fine for Gab +
-(19:53:58) serialmonkey:​ Bruce ? +
-(19:54:40) Bruce_Thompson:​ monday is soetimes ok +
-(19:54:45) vibratednewt:​ Arent the westlakes meetings at 7pm the two weeks around LOGIN meetings? +
-(19:55:05) Bruce_Thompson:​ yep +
-(19:55:36) serialmonkey:​ ok, next ? +
-(19:55:51) theothersteve:​ media. ideas? +
-(19:56:02) theothersteve:​ I think it's hard to do media until we confirm venue +
-(19:56:09) serialmonkey:​ agreed +
-(19:56:18) serialmonkey:​ I think the promoting we did last time worked pretty well +
-(19:56:29) serialmonkey:​ Get Jonathan back on the radio :-D +
-(19:57:05) theothersteve:​ ok, defer media until we've made some more progress. +
-(19:57:10) kymoie: i'm not sure if rhema helped at all last time, but do we want to try them again +
-(19:57:27) theothersteve:​ any media is good.  +
-(19:57:35) theothersteve:​ esp. if we know people +
-(19:57:54) theothersteve:​ jonathon'​s interview was cool last time, who organised that? +
-(19:58:07) serialmonkey:​ It was someone on the mailing list ..... +
-(19:58:28) theothersteve:​ action: steve to ask mailing list who organised abc interview +
-(19:58:40) kymoie: I think they were at the meeting before last +
-(19:58:49) kymoie: maybe... +
-(19:59:03) vibratednewt:​ and Tony (saywot) has informed me he is lining up ABC Newcastle radio +
-(19:59:04) serialmonkey:​ '​saywot'​ +
-(19:59:34) kymoie: so we found him +
-(19:59:39) theothersteve:​ awesome +
-(20:00:01) theothersteve:​ ok, next item.......(missed one) posters/​handouts +
-(20:00:24) theothersteve:​ can we do this before confirming venue? I guess we can do some stuff for bruce'​s day +
-(20:00:38) serialmonkey:​ I liked what we had last time, but it would be good if we could get a proper table-banner this year instead of 3-4 sheets of A3 stuck together with tape ;-) +
-(20:00:55) kymoie: we can still get some ideas, and some designs without a venu +
-(20:01:09) vibratednewt:​ serialmonkey:​ where can we get that printed though? +
-(20:01:15) kymoie: what was wrong with the A3? +
-(20:01:28) theothersteve:​ kymoie: true. who's the artist in the group? +
-(20:01:44) kymoie: Tony made the last ones +
-(20:01:48) serialmonkey:​ Can't we just steal the art from the SFD website like last time :-) +
-(20:02:03) kymoie: that too +
-(20:02:11) theothersteve:​ serialmonkey:​ it's called "​sharing"​ +
-(20:02:30) serialmonkey:​ How "​freedom"​ of them :-) +
-(20:02:47) serialmonkey:​ Haven'​t seen TonyB around for awhile ..... +
-(20:02:50) theothersteve:​ gotta practice what you preach :) +
-(20:03:36) theothersteve:​ Can we just re-use tony's stuff from last year? +
-(20:03:40) serialmonkey:​ I say we email the list asking for the masters from last year +
-(20:03:49) serialmonkey:​ (if we don't have them), and work from there +
-(20:03:59) kymoie: and any new ones who would like to put their hand up +
-(20:04:01) serialmonkey:​ steve: exactly +
-(20:04:25) theothersteve:​ action: steve to ask list about art from last year, volunteers +
-(20:04:55) theothersteve:​ ok, I think that's it from the list I sent out, anything else? +
-(20:05:33) vibratednewt:​ do we want 1 or 2 modems for the day? +
-(20:05:34) serialmonkey:​ not from here +
-(20:06:00) vibratednewt:​ last years banner is at http://​people.aapt.net.au/​jen-ton/​logo3.pdf +
-(20:06:15) vibratednewt:​ s/​banner/​poster +
-(20:06:29) Bruce_Thompson:​ vibratednewt:​ Which program +
-(20:06:57) vibratednewt:​ Bruce_Thompson:​ SFD. I can't promise anything for Aug 31 atm. +
-(20:07:24) Bruce_Thompson:​ No that'​s ​ fine +
-(20:07:39) serialmonkey:​ I have to run guys sorry. I'll follow up on the list+wiki +
-(20:07:43) serialmonkey:​ bbl probably +
-(20:07:56) serialmonkey left the room (quit: ). +
-(20:07:57) kymoie: just set yourself to away +
-(20:08:00) kymoie: :( +
-(20:08:31) vibratednewt:​ oh well +
-(20:08:33) serial-lurker [n=serialmo@ppp121-44-98-76.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] entered the room. +
-(20:08:39) kymoie: lol +
-(20:08:53) theothersteve:​ yeah guys I'll have to finish up as well. I'm saving the log I have but I missed the start of the meeting so if someone has logged the whole thing can you email it to me please? (stephen.a.lindsay@gmail.com) +
-(20:09:16) Bruce_Thompson:​ Really liked this evening - first time on IRC - was good  but got to go - see you later Can do steve +
-(20:09:48) vibratednewt:​ ok is next irc meeting monday 6.30pm ? +
-(20:10:04) kymoie: Gabz can.. +
-(20:10:07) theothersteve:​ vibratednewt:​ can you send details re. modems to the list. can discuss further there if that ok +
-(20:10:11) kymoie: 6:30 or 7? +
-(20:10:25) vibratednewt:​ theothersteve:​ I replied to your email last night. +
-(20:11:05) theothersteve:​ vibratednewt:​ ah ok, sorry have been flat out last couple of weeks so falling behind on email :( will check and get back to you +
-(20:11:15) vibratednewt:​ ok. +
-(20:11:51) Bruce_Thompson left the room (quit: "​Leaving"​). +
-(20:11:54) theothersteve:​ anyway, gotta go. lets pencil in 6:30 monday, if too early for some let's discuss on list.+
 
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